5 Healthy Habits of Top Performers — What Actually Works (Burnaby, BC)

TL;DR: Most “top performer” advice is overcomplicated. The habits that actually stick are simple: build a morning routine that serves your priorities, take real recovery breaks, walk every day, focus on nutrients instead of just macros, and cut the decisions that drain your energy. Kraken Fitness in North Burnaby coaches all five.



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At Kraken Fitness in North Burnaby — near Brentwood — the coaches work with people who never thought they’d set foot in a gym. Everyday people with real jobs, real families, real time constraints. Not fitness influencers. Not people who already know what they’re doing.

And that’s exactly why the habits that actually work for top performers matter so much. Because these aren’t habits that require two hours before your workday starts. They’re habits that fit into a regular life.

On Episode 9 of the Kraken Power Podcast, Josko and Brandon broke down five habits they see in people who consistently get results. Not “wake up at 4 AM and take a cold shower” advice. The stuff that actually moves the needle.

Here’s what they covered.


Morning Routines That Actually Help

The short answer: your morning routine probably doesn’t need to be as long as you think it does.

There’s been a massive emphasis on morning routines over the last decade. Meditate, journal, cold shower, make your bed, go for a walk, read, stretch. The list keeps growing. And before you know it, it’s noon and you haven’t started your actual day.

Josko’s morning routine is simple: wake up, eat, log a few daily stats, go for a walk while listening to a podcast, come back and start working. That’s it. Brandon’s is even more stripped down — wake up, brush teeth, get an hour of work in, look after his kid, then work out.

The point isn’t that morning routines are bad. The point is that most people stack so many things into them that the routine itself becomes draining. If you’re exhausted before your workday starts, the routine isn’t serving you.

Here’s a better question to ask: what is this morning habit actually doing for me? Take meditation, for example. The benefit of meditation is training your focus — pulling your attention back when your mind wanders. But reading does the same thing. So does any activity that demands sustained attention. If you hate sitting still with your eyes closed, find the version that works for you and gives you the same result.

The habit should serve your current priority. If your priority is growing a business, direct your morning energy there. If your priority is fitness, maybe a morning workout makes sense. But don’t just stack habits because someone on a podcast told you to. Even this one.


Strategic Recovery, Not Scrolling

Real recovery breaks don’t involve your phone. That’s the main takeaway.

Most people think they’re recovering when they sit on the couch and scroll Instagram for 20 minutes. But that’s stimulation, not recovery. You don’t come back from a scroll session feeling recharged. You come back feeling drained and not wanting to go back to work.

A real recovery break is anything that leaves you at equal or greater capacity than before you took the break. Going for a short walk. Laying down for a few minutes. Having a meal without a screen. Stepping out of your home office and talking to someone in person.

Brandon brought up a practical approach: set a timer. Plan your recovery breaks instead of letting them happen accidentally. There’s a meaningful difference between “I’m going to scroll my phone because I’m avoiding work” and “I’m going to step away for 15 minutes because I scheduled this break.”

Wearables like Oura Rings can actually help here. They track stress and recovery throughout the day, so you can see when your body is running hot and actually needs a break versus when you’re just procrastinating.

The key is that recovery should be intentional, not reactive. If you plan it into your day, it becomes a tool. If you let it happen randomly, it usually turns into a distraction that eats an hour.


Daily Walking: The Most Underrated Habit

Walking is the single most underrated health habit. Full stop.

Josko walks at least once a day, sometimes up to three times. Not long hikes — walks ranging from 10 minutes to about an hour. It serves as recovery, movement, creative thinking time, and a way to disconnect from screens.

But the calorie side matters too. Kraken’s trainers hear it all the time: “I switched from a warehouse job to an office job and gained 50 pounds.” The eating didn’t change — the movement did. For most people, the fix isn’t a harder workout program. It’s just moving more throughout the day. Walking is the easiest way to do that.

Here’s how to build the habit without overthinking it:

  1. Start with a 10-minute walk after dinner. You’re already eating dinner. Just tack the walk onto the end. That alone adds about 1,000 steps.
  2. Add a lunchtime walk. Another 2,000 steps. Now you’re at 3,000 extra steps without any real effort.
  3. Gradually increase the length. Once the habit is locked in, you can walk longer. But the habit itself is the priority — not the duration.

The biggest threat to a walking habit is weather. Josko lives in Vancouver. It snows. He bought boots and goes anyway. Because the moment you skip a walk because it’s raining, you’ve opened the door to skipping for every other reason. Three months later you’re 10 pounds heavier wondering when you’ll “get back into walking.”

Brandon added another angle worth noting: walking with people changes the dynamic of a conversation. Walking meetings are more productive than sitting across a table. Walking with your partner or kids builds connection without it feeling like “quality time” you had to schedule. One of Kraken’s clients started a walking group at her office — it began with one person and grew to ten.

Walking isn’t just exercise. It’s a recovery tool, a creativity tool, and a relationship tool. And it costs nothing.


Nutrients, Not Just Macros

Tracking macros is a step in the right direction. But it misses something important.

The fitness industry has pushed macro tracking hard — calories in, calories out, hit your protein target, done. And that’s not wrong. But it’s incomplete. A thousand calories of bread and a thousand calories of steak are not the same experience. One leaves you full and nourished. The other leaves you hungry an hour later.

People who are genuinely passionate about how they feel — not just how they look — tend to focus on the quality of what they’re eating, not just the numbers. They eat whole, single-ingredient foods as much as possible. Meat, vegetables, fruit, rice. Things that came in a recognizable form, not off a shelf in a package.

Brandon put it simply: Kraken’s trainers would rather see a client eat a steak for protein than drink a protein shake. The body absorbs real food differently than processed versions of the same macros.

Here’s a practical test Brandon uses on himself: when you get a craving at 8 PM, ask yourself — would I eat a steak right now? If the answer is no, you’re not actually hungry. You just want something sugary. That’s hedonic hunger, and recognizing it is half the battle.

This doesn’t mean you need to become a food purist. It means that once you’ve got the basics of calorie and protein awareness down, the next level is paying attention to what those calories are made of. That shift tends to improve energy, mood, and how you feel day to day — not just what the scale says.


Decision Minimization

Every decision you make throughout the day costs energy. The fewer unnecessary decisions, the more energy you have for the ones that matter.

This is the habit most people don’t think about, but it shows up in almost every high performer. Josko wears essentially the same outfit every day — same brand of pants, same shirts, same socks. He doesn’t turn on his bedroom light in the morning. Whatever’s on top of the pile works because everything in the closet matches. Mark Zuckerberg famously wore the same grey zip-up for years. The founder of Gymshark wears one outfit that works for meetings, workouts, and everything in between.

But clothing is just the surface. Decision minimization extends into food, social life, and how you structure your day.

Josko eats the same meals at the same times. Rice and beef for lunch, every day. Five rotating dinners. His kids eat the same way — when asked what they want for dinner, they say “rice and meat.” Not because they’re forced to. Because that’s what they know and that’s what they like.

The social circle piece is worth paying attention to. Some friendships energize you. Others drain you. If you’re constantly deciding who to hang out with, what to do, where to go — that’s decision fatigue that has nothing to do with work or fitness, but it pulls from the same limited pool of mental energy.

The practical takeaway: find the things in your life that can run on autopilot without losing quality, and lock them in. Wardrobe, meals, daily schedule. Free up that mental bandwidth for the decisions that actually move your life forward.


FAQ

What’s the best morning routine for busy people?

Keep it short and tied to your priorities. If your priority is work, direct your energy there. A morning routine that takes two hours before you start your day is probably too long. Eat, move briefly, and get into your most important work.

How many steps should I walk per day?

Start wherever you are and add from there. A 10-minute walk after dinner adds roughly 1,000 steps. A lunchtime walk adds another 2,000. The habit matters more than the number. Kraken’s coaches in Burnaby, BC build walking into every client’s plan because it’s the easiest win.

Is tracking macros enough for good nutrition?

It’s a solid start, but it’s incomplete. A thousand calories of steak and a thousand calories of bread have very different effects on your body. Once you’ve got calorie and protein awareness down, shift toward whole, single-ingredient foods for better energy and satiety.

What is decision fatigue and how does it affect health?

Decision fatigue is the mental drain from making too many choices throughout the day. It affects health because when your mental energy is spent on low-value decisions — what to wear, what to eat, who to see — you have less capacity for the decisions that actually matter, like sticking to your training and nutrition plan.

How do I take a real recovery break during the workday?

A real recovery break leaves you feeling equal or better than before. Walking, laying down, eating without a screen, or talking to someone face to face all qualify. Scrolling your phone does not. Plan your breaks intentionally instead of letting them happen when you’re already burned out.


Ready to Build These Habits With a Coach?

These five habits sound simple. They are. But building them consistently — especially when life gets busy — is where most people get stuck.

Kraken Fitness in North Burnaby works with people who aren’t looking for a hardcore gym. They’re looking for a coach who helps them build behaviors that actually last. One limiter at a time. No overwhelm.


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About the Author

Josko Kraken is the founder of Kraken Fitness in North Burnaby near Brentwood, and Brandon is co-owner. Together they host the Kraken Power Podcast. With two decades of combined coaching experience, they built Kraken as “the gym for non-gym people” — a transformation-focused coaching gym where everyday people get results through behavior change, not willpower. The Kraken Power Podcast covers the real habits, mindset shifts, and coaching insights behind lasting health changes.


Josko: Yo, what’s going on guys? Welcome back to the Kraken Power Podcast. We’re your hosts Yashko and Brandon.

In today’s episode, we’re going to be talking about the five healthy habits of overachievers, from decision minimization to building morning routines. Let’s dive in. Welcome back to the Kraken Power Podcast.

So Yashko, what’s your morning routine like? So I’ve changed my morning routine so much from when I was younger to now, but I’m a true believer that your morning routine doesn’t matter as much as most people think. That, you know, like if you wake up, you have to go for a walk, you have to meditate, you have to journal, you have to do all this stuff.

I do think that all those things are great and I’m sure they’re going to help you, but at the same time, like it can be a little bit too much. And I also don’t think that, you know, you need to start your day with a cold shower, that you need to make your bed. There’s many things that a lot of people do that are completely worthless, like hands down for sure.

Specifically for me, like what I do is I wake up in the morning, I eat, I write up my stats on my tracker, like, you know, how many steps I had yesterday, my weight, those kinds of things that I’m currently tracking. And then I like to go for a walk. So that’s how I start my day and I just listen to whatever podcast kind of motivates me for work.

And then when I come back, I just start working. That’s my morning routine.

Brandon: Yeah, I think what you’re trying to say is like, there’s been such a big emphasis on morning routines over the past like 10, 15 years, that it’s almost gotten like too much, right? There’s like so many things. There’s a grocery list of things that you have to like check off before you can even get into your work, right?

Or even start your day. You’re like, check, check, check, check, brush my teeth, you know, ice bath, I have to journal. And then before you know it, it’s like 12pm and you’re like, now I’m ready to start the day.

Yeah. And the thing is like, dude, sometimes when I used to do all that stuff, I was drained.

Josko: Yeah. You know, like I just can’t even get into work. This is a problem for me back in the day when we used to advocate a lot of like exercise in the morning, you know, waking up and workout and then also do jiu jitsu.

But when I came back after like, I just couldn’t get back into work as hard as I do now. Like now when I’m like really working, I’m like really focused for hours. And it’s because I’m directing all my energy towards my work.

Let’s say like that’s for me, right? For me right now, I’m trying to focus on growing a business. And that’s my priority, right?

But for somebody whose priority is fitness, maybe you should be working out in the morning. Maybe that is like, maybe you should be waking up going for a walk and then going to the gym. Maybe that’s what it is, right?

Brandon: Yeah. And I know that you and I are fairly like morning people, but I still think that that first part of the day, you only going to have a finite amount of attention span as well as a finite amount of energy to pour into kind of those things. And faster you can just get into doing the things that are your priority, the faster you get the ball rolling for the rest of the day realistically.

Yeah, exactly. So what’s your morning routine? My morning routine, I basically wake up, I brush my teeth, I go work for an hour and then I look after my kid and then I just work out.

Okay, yeah. But I do that pretty much every day and that’s kind of like worked best for me because if I wake up and I, before I would like be like, okay, I got to meditate for like 10 minutes, I got to go to the gym, I got to like come back, I got to take a shower, I got to like slam a protein shake with coffee in it, whatever, right? Before you know it, it was like 10, 11 o’clock and I have gotten nothing done.

Josko: Speaking on a meditation, so that’s something that a lot of people advocate, especially in the morning. But I do think that there is some benefit to meditation that’s not just like a spiritual thing, right? It for sure minimalizes, you know, anxiety and there is definitely like mental health benefits for it.

But for me, what I found was that if I do activities that are like meditation, that it almost helps me, gives me the same benefits as meditation. What I found was reading, like reading a book is almost the exact same thing where when I’m reading, my mind will start drifting off and then I have to like pull back to the book and then over and over and over again, right? And then over time, you get better and better at just like focusing on one thing over time, which is exactly what meditation does as well.

Like that’s what the benefits are. Like, you know, you have all these thoughts that are going on in your head and you’re trying to just calm your thoughts down, not trying to think about anything, which is like impossible. And then as soon as you notice that you’re like drifting away from like focusing on your breath, then you pull yourself back to your breath, you know?

And so that’s what meditation is and that’s like essentially the exact same thing as reading a book. It’s the exact same thing as when you’re doing, you know, when we were doing jiu-jitsu like classes, right? And then like you guys would be like explaining like some sort of move, right?

And then like I’d be like watching and I’d be like drifting off and I’d be like, oh, I’m here, I’m focusing on this, right? And I do notice that at the beginning of the day, it’s way easier to focus than it is at the end of the day. So it like you can find these moments of meditation and trying to like train that meditation and get better at it.

It doesn’t necessarily have to be purely meditation. So yeah, just because like I guess what I’m trying to say is like for the morning routines, you don’t have to do something that somebody says, you know? You can find your own way of doing it as well that works just the same, maybe gets the same result.

Like what is the point of doing your meditation? And then finding something that you can do that fits well with the way that you do things and like fits well with your goals.

Brandon: Yeah, I think that’s a really good point where it’s like we do all these things in the morning, but like what is the purpose of it? And like how does it serve you? That’s what you should ultimately be asking you if you’re going to be adding it into your routine.

Josko: Because if the thing is worthless, if it’s like if you can’t tie in like the reason why you’re doing this, then why are you doing it? You know, like what’s the point of doing it? In order for you to make like a long-term change, you have to make sure you’re doing stuff that you can, like there’s a reason for, right?

But the next thing is strategic recovery. So the cool thing with the aura rings is they now track your recovery and stress. And so throughout the day, you can find these moments to recover because you might be like extremely stressed, like while you’re working.

I think you’ve said in the past that like you’ll be on your computer going like like super into it, right? And you might need some recovery even after doing that, right? And so you need to find these like moments of restorative time.

And that restorative time might be something like maybe even just changing what you’re currently doing, like going for a walk. It might be like laying down on your couch for a bit. It might be maybe even having a meal or maybe just going up, like coming out of like your cave at your home office or at your office at home.

And like maybe if you’re in your office in like a building or something, you go to the water fountain and you like chat with some people, you know? It’s like you have to find these moments of recovery and you have to understand that it’s not just necessarily a distraction. It’s like an opportunity for you to disconnect and recover a little bit.

Brandon: Yeah, and I think one of the best ways for you to actually do this is to actually put it planned into your schedule.

Josko: Yeah, totally. Right?

Brandon: It shouldn’t be, it should, like there’s a difference between distraction and a planned break. Yeah, and you’ll notice the times where you actually like plan it. Like sometimes when I’m working, I’ll put a timer on my phone so I know like how long the task takes, but also for me to kind of switch gears into something else if I kind of need to, right?

And that could be a little bit of a recovery break. And one thing that we always want to stress is you sitting on the couch, flipping through your phone is not a recovery break. Yeah.

It’s crazy. Like everyone thinks like, oh yeah, I’m just going to take my mind off work. I’m just going to go and eat and I’m just going to flip through Instagram.

But what that actually does is it actually ramps you up and stimulates you even more because it’s not like you ever do that and you’re like, oh, I want to return back to work now. It’s like, no, you just want to keep scrolling there or you just feel drained by the end of it. I think a really good way to define these short recovery breaks is like, hey, am I ready to go back to work at a greater or equal capacity than I was before?

Josko: Yeah, totally. So one thing that I found for myself is the daily walking. So now I walk like at least one time per day, but sometimes even potentially like three times in a day.

So, and you might think that that’s a lot, but the walks are ranging anywhere between like 10 minutes to like 50 minutes, sometimes an hour. And I really like this time because it does help me like disconnect from everything. It gives me an opportunity to listen to some podcasts.

It gives me just an opportunity to just stop whatever I’m doing and just like do something else and also at the same time, get my steps in, you know? So I look at that as kind of recovery and I think that this isn’t just recovery though. This is also like there’s a huge benefit to just walking in general.

And I think that there’s quotes about like geniuses, like geniuses would typically walk a lot.

Brandon: Yeah. Like geniuses are artists. They would just like pace back and forth or they go for a walk somewhere and come back.

Because I think it does something about, you know, ambulating and keep on continually like left foot, right foot, left foot, right foot, just keep going and, you know, disconnecting for things or even being out in nature kind of brings your body back into a spot of focus, but also changes your perspective of maybe the work mode that you were just in.

Josko: And then on top of that, there is also the benefit of, you know, walking into burn calories as well. You know, like I’ve had so many conversations with people who say, you know, I switched jobs. I used to be where I used to work in a warehouse.

Now I work in an office and I gained 50 pounds. It’s like, yeah, because you used to like you ate this much, right? And you used to like walk this much and you were able to keep the weight up.

But now you eat this much and you move this much. And so now you’re obviously going to be overweight, right? So for most people, like what they need to do is add way more activity into their life.

And that’s why it’s so worth it to just like find opportunities for you to walk. And one of the best ways to add this in is to just walk after a meal. Maybe you can start with walking after dinner, right?

Just like literally just like a 10 minute walk because that even adds like potentially like a thousand steps, right? And then from there, add in a lunchtime walk as well. That’s another 2000 steps.

And then from there you can maybe increase how long you’re walking, right? And just use it because like you can tack it on to the ready to the thing that you’re already doing, which is eating dinner. Now you eat dinner and then you have a walk after, you know, instead of like eating dinner and just going on your phone or going to watch TV or going back on your computer or going back to work.

Now you walk after and just part of it. And it can start literally with 10 minutes. And the other thing too is like, you know, a lot of people, they like try to build a habit of walking, but they end up stopping because of the weather.

For me, it’s been snowing in Vancouver, probably not when this podcast is going to air, but it’s been snowing in Vancouver and I still go for walks. I bought boots and I just go for a walk and I put on my gloves, I put on my toque and yeah, it maybe takes me longer. It’s a little bit harder to walk in the snow.

I need to get that walk in. I don’t want to lose that habit. And we’ve talked about in previous podcasts, like how, you know, once you have that routine, you don’t want to like fall for a trigger again.

And a trigger for you, if you’re starting to try to walk again, could be like a trigger for you to like start failing is like you going back on your phone and being like, Oh, this feels so much better than like going for a walk. And then three months later, and like, you’re like 10 pounds heavier and your motivation’s completely dropped. You’re going to be thinking, I want to get back into walking, you know?

It’s like, just don’t let it, don’t stop doing it. And I know that you and your wife have been walking recently as well. And you kind of like started enjoying that a little bit.

Brandon: Yeah, I think, well, recently I had a child. And so one thing that we’re trying to do is get my daughter out and get different kinds of stimulus from the environment, which is really good, right? So you can bring out your nature.

Like we brought her out into the snow for the first time. I mean, she fell asleep right away, but she was exposed to it. You know what I mean?

But there is that aspect of not only just like transitioning from one thing to another relaxation, but also that connectivity that I have with my family now too. And you can do this with people in the office or whatever, right? Like when you’re having a meeting, you’re like, hey, let’s go for a walk and let’s just walk and talk at the same time, which is a really easy way to, again, have like a very casual, but you’ll be surprised about how much more people actually open up when you’re like walking and talking with them, as opposed to just sitting across from them at a table in stale lighting.

Josko: Yeah, yeah. It’s just a different way to do it. And also maybe you can, I remember one client that I was working with, she started a walking group at her work, you know, and it started off with one person, then it was two people, then it was three people.

And the next thing you know, you’re like walking with like 10 people and you’re going in different directions and like different people liked it. You know, it can start with you. So highly, highly, highly recommend daily walking because it is definitely a healthy habit of the overachievers.

Now, the next thing is nutrients, not macros. Now, a lot of people in the fitness industry have been pushing eating using MyFitnessPal and eating at a calorie deficit, right? But the one thing that they’re neglecting is nutrients.

But the one thing that is really like shows somebody who’s really passionate about the way they feel, the way they, how healthy they are, you know, somebody who’s passionate about their health, somebody who’s passionate about their work ethic, they typically don’t just eat like macro friendly foods, you know, they’re eating things that are going to nourish their body, however they think that is right. So that is a huge thing that I think a lot of people need to focus on is just eating healthier in general, not just about the macros.

Brandon: Yeah, and I think people are on the right track with the macros, like they’re controlling calories or controlling protein, but there is a big missing piece of it. And it just be like the same differences if you have like a very expensive car, right? Yeah, you could put fuel in it, right?

But there’s a difference between, you know, I don’t know what kind of gas or is it octane? You know what I mean? 87 to 97, right?

There’s a big difference between the two. And I think one of the easiest ways for you to focus on adding good micronutrient profile to your diet, making sure you’re adequately topped up across the boards is just focusing on whole single ingredient foods. And that’s primarily what we preach to a lot of our clients, like try not to eat things off a shelf, try not to eat things in a can, like try to eat things the way that they came in its form and just eat it.

And if you find that you do that more than enough, you’ll find that your body absorbs it way more rather than getting it in some like refined process way. Like I’d rather my clients eat a steak to get protein rather than have a protein shake.

Josko: Yeah, for sure. And you know, the thing is, sometimes when you’re hungry, you’re just nutrient depleted. You know, like if you eat something that’s like 1000 calories of bread doesn’t feel the same as 1000 calories of steak, you’d 1000 calories of steak, you’re pretty full, you’d 1000 calories of bread, like you still it’s like air.

There’s like nothing in it, right? So there is benefits outside of also just like mental health. And there’s also like the just like the same 1000 calories isn’t the same.

Brandon: Yeah, you know, I think that’s always a really good litmus test to see if I’m just like craving things or just if I have hedonic hunger, I always go like, would I just like eat a steak right now? Like, if it’s like 8pm at night, and you’re like, I kind of want to like just like eat something just to get that quick fix. I’m like, would I just want to fire up and eat a steak right now?

And if the answer is like, no, then I know I’m just like, just want to put some kind of sugary crap in my mouth.

Josko: So the next thing that we really like to focus on is decision minimalization. And what this is, is just basically minimalizing the decisions that you have to make on a daily basis. And so one example that I have is your clothes that you wear.

So I wear and I think you also wear pretty much like the exact same thing in every single scenario of your life. So I found the perfect wardrobe for myself, like the exact brand of socks, the exact brand of pants, the underwear, the shirt, you know, and I just have multiple different versions of those like different colors and stuff. But I wear the exact same thing every single day, not just for work, but like for going out grocery shopping for going out and hanging out with my friends for like an event, like literally everything, you’ll see me wearing the exact same thing.

And you know, I always, whenever I go out and see friends, like they’re always like wearing different clothes, but then I’m literally wearing the exact same thing every single time, you know, but it does really help me. Like when I wake up, like I don’t even turn on my lights in my bedroom. Like I literally grab the pants, grab the shirt, grab the underwear, like whatever’s on top.

And it will always make sense. There’s no, there’s literally no decision in it. You know, was this a Zuckerberg thing?

You know, Zuckerberg would always wear that like zip up, right? I don’t think he does anymore. I think he’s trying to be cool now, but it’s not just Zuckerberg.

It’s like pretty much every single high-level entrepreneur wears the exact same thing. If you look at like, let’s say for example, you know, the guy who made Gymshark. So I saw this interview with him and he said that he wears the exact same like pants that he can not just, because like for me, I have to change my clothes to workout clothes, right?

But he wears the exact same thing for when he’s working out, when he’s having a meeting, when he’s working at like literally for everything, it’s like the exact same outfit. It’s like this zip up with like these pants and he doesn’t change at all for the entire day.

Brandon: That’s like, um, if you, for all the jujitsu nerds out there, John Donaher, he wears like a rash guard every day because you never know when you need to do jujitsu. You never, never, you never know when someone on the street’s going to, you know, engage you in combat. So you need to be ready.

Yeah. But he has a rash guard. He’ll go to like a fancy steakhouse in a rash guard.

He wears like sweat pants, rash guard, fanny pack every day.

Josko: That’s hilarious. Yeah. Yeah.

And I, but dude, I think it really, it really does help me. Like they’re just something that I just don’t have to think about.

Brandon: Yeah. You just don’t want to admit that you have like a finite amount of energy and decisions in a day, but you do.

Josko: Yeah. Yeah.

Brandon: And you might as well like spend that energy and that focus on things that are going to push the ball up the Hill for you. Right. Rather than be like, Hmm, should I wear green today or red today?

Ah, that’s not going to match with those socks.

Josko: Yeah. You know, um, this extends all the way into like your food, into your friends. It doesn’t just stop at your wardrobe.

So like for me, I literally eat this exact same thing pretty much every single day at the exact same time, the exact same amounts. And a lot of people might say, I think that’s boring. But to me, I don’t want it any other way.

Like I don’t want to put like, have to think about what to eat. Like that’s such a distraction. Like I just want to eat the exact same rice with the exact same beef every single lunch.

And then for dinner, like whatever combination of dinner that we have that’s in the rotation, you know, like just like the five things that we eat over and over again. You know, what’s funny? Like, so my kids, they basically do the exact same diet as us.

Like we literally eat the exact same food, just raw liver and testicles. Yeah. So yeah, we eat the exact same food.

And when we ask them, like, we’re like, what do you want to eat for dinner? They’re like rice, meat. Like that’s it.

Do they know though? That’s all they know. Yeah.

That’s all they know. Like they’re open to having different foods, you know? But, um, like when you ask them, like, what do you want to eat today?

Like, that’s what they want to eat. And then sometimes when, um, we go out to a friend’s house or we go out to like our family’s house and they make a big dinner or something. And then we, at the end, when we’re brushing their teeth, we’re like, Oh, what was your favorite thing that you ate today?

And they’re like the meat. But you have the meat every day.

Brandon: It’s like the exact same thing every single day, but that’s like what they enjoy. Right. So we shouldn’t shame those kids who just only want to eat chicken nuggets every day.

Josko: No, that’s like a whole other story too. But, um, you know, um, I might as well just say like one of our friends was like, my son, he just won’t eat anything other than chicken nuggets and bread. And we’re like, my kids don’t know that chicken nuggets exist.

Like, how do you have this problem? Like this is your, this is don’t blame your son. This is you.

Brandon: Right. Right. Right.

I mean, chicken nuggets are pretty good.

Josko: Yeah. Yeah, totally. Um, but yeah.

And then also of course, like your friends, like who you’re hanging out with, there has to be a minimalization with that as well. You know, is, you know, if you’re constantly trying to figure out like which friend you’re going to hang out with and what you’re going to do on the weekend, like that does give you fatigue as well. So you have to find people in your life that are grounded, that like you can be with regularly with that, that aren’t going to drain your energy.

Cause like, I definitely have some friends who whenever I hang out with them, like the next day I’m like, just done, you know? So it extends with so many things and that’s why decision minimalization is huge.

Brandon: Yeah. And I think going on your point for the like friends and circle wise, like I think you should always try to find people in your circle who are going to like re-energize you. Or at least if you know that people are going to be kind of deplete you of it, you have fewer of those friends or you see them, you know, sparingly, right?

Because if you really want to achieve something, right? It’s like, you don’t want things to like pulling you back and people sometimes, unfortunately are those things that kind of hold you back and drain you of that energy throughout the day.

Josko: So that’s pretty much it for today’s podcast. Hope you guys enjoyed that one and we’ll see you in the next one.

Brandon: See ya.